cub cadet vs toro zero turn 202010 marca 2023
Im looking at the Ariens IKON XD 52 vs John Deer z375r. The ZT1 42 zero-turn mower features a 22 HP/725 cc Kohler 7000 twin-cylinder engine that delivers high-performance power for a consistent cut. Been using a 42 in cone drive dixon for 20 years with blower bagger. Could you narrow it down to 2 About to own 1.5 fairly flat property with some trees and become first time ZT owner, too. I will check out the dealer and go from there. Paul The last option Ive thought about is to use a robotic mower for the back hill, and go with a lower priced mower for the flat part. Opinion please. Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? I believe the deck shell is the same one used as on the commercial mowers. The John Deere mulches, bags and side discharges the best of all the 42-inch ZTRs on the market. Want to do most maintenance myself, easy blade change etc. 2. On the Toro, however, height is controlled using a lever thats beside the speed control. I enjoy mowing the yard and do so often. Thank you! Hi Dave, All five brands are a great choice in that price range. I then considered a Hustler Raptor SDX (cost too high) and the MZ54 Husqvarna (user reviews pretty negative). The slow speed is especially great while learning how to use the machine and I have a cart that I can tow in the second speed. Toro is the only one using the 2100 and they have been using them for years. The decks are manufactured to incorporate aerodynamic force for a much more intentional distribution of clippings; to avoid clumping, stragglers, trailing, and improve the overall cutting quality of the deck. Im not familiar with Husky but the Husqvarna decks are not as good. Its now owned by a Chinese company though the mowers are still made in Beatrice, KS. About half the lot is sloped from 11 13.7 degrees (measured with angle finder phone app calibrated with a level). $4399 $3499 = $900. And yes the Ultima XT2 can pull it loaded around your property once in a while. Aceitar Recusar. Thank you Paul. In fact you can buy the new 2020 50 (127 cm) TimeCutter Zero Turn Mower (75750) for less money. I would also want to avoid overly sensitive control bars. We need a new mower and at our Husky dealership they had a Rhomba like battery mower that can do up to a 35% grade. I can tell you Ive had my Cut Cadet Ultima ZT2 54 for 2 1/2 months now, and it rocks! They are both priced roughly the same, have similar specs and both carry 3 year unlimited hour warranties. For the reason the cutting blades maintaining high rotational speed is applauded, there is a corresponding feature consisting of large wing-like spray blocking fenders to keep the grass from dowsing its landscaper with clippings. To steer right, pull back the right bar while keeping the left bar pressed forward. If you are mowing one acre and less properties the Walker will be faster overall. Hi Randy, All have the EZT2200 axles. You are correct about the Scag, Ferris, Walker they are either too high priced for the amount of mowing you do or in the case of the Ferris they have too many moving parts that will give you problems 10 years down the road. The Toros cut is fantastic but (Its like having a locking diff on a Garden Tractor) I suggest the Z-Force S 48 for long life and the extra weight for traction. I have both brands and I use them all the time. The mower is, however, equipped with two LED headlights, which are absent on the Toro. I did check out your videos last week, very informative! (Since the MX5050 is an old model it should be priced in the $2500 range) The Toro MX5075 will give you the best ride and a great cut. I recommend only looking at the Husqvarna AUTOMOWER 430XH or the just introduced Worx Landroid L. These are the only robitic mowers that will mow the grass high enough (3-3.5 inches) so that you dont get soil erosion on that slope. It will give you a cut you can be proud of. Its Ariens Decision not Home Depots. I like both of them a lot. Fab Deck 24 HP Kawasaki FR V-Twin with Roll Over Protection and Front Wheel Suspension Available assembled and delivered through, Ariens APEX 60 Kawasaki Model 991163 60 Cutting Width Kawasaki FR730 engine 24 hp/726cc. I personally have this deck and I like it a lot. The deck also sits out front so you can trim under stuff and with the 48-inch deck, it will trim right around fence post and landscaping without leaving anything to trim. Since both companies produce world-class machines, choosing one over the other can be a pretty challenging task for most mower buyers. They both use a collection of Kawasaki, Kohler, and in-house engines (for the Toro TimeCutter) to function effectively. It has the same heavy-duty features as the Ariens IKON XL but the deck is designed more for weekly mowing. I just dont think I need a heavy duty mower, but maybe the heavier Cub would last longer. Thanks for the quick reply. My first choice for you is a Country Clipper Boulevard zero-turn. Not everyone wants to show off at all times, you know? Which would you recommend? The two biggest problems for the Briggs Intek is slopes and dirt. The 54 deck would be welcome as I do have some wide open mowing spaces. Country Clipper Boulevard (deck tilt) When the mower is out of service, should the deck be at a specific height, like all the way up or all the way down? Theres a local Gravely dealer that seems reliable and good to work with. John deere, gravely, bob cat, toro, exmark. As time goes by and my father in law and neighbor get older Ill be cutting probably in the 10 acre range. The Ultima ZT2 will last. I do think Ill like the wider rear tires on the Deere though. Its a heavy-duty mower and is stronger than the TimeCutter series so it will last mowing your lawn. Fabricated Deck 23 HP Kawasaki FR Series V-Twin Gas Engine Zero Turn Mower with Lap Bar ControlAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZT2 60 in. If the model number starts with 247 it was made by MTD 917 it was made by Husqvarna. So, kudos to Toro company for this magnificent idea! The Toro has the SmartSpeed control so you can slow the top speed down when mowing on the slope but, they are both good mowers. What model should i be looking at for a rough and hilly yard? Sorry for the long post but I have NO EXPERIENCE at all with any of this. The Toro TimeCutter and Cub Cadet zt1 have models with different motors and capacities depending on the grade. With the 48 inch deck, you can trim around a fence post and never slow down. I suggest talking to the dealers and picking the mower you like the best from the dealer you like the best. One last question: is fabricated deck better than stamped? 3. I prefer a mower where the operator (not the whole mower) has a suspension seat. Hi Jason, Thank you. It built better than the commercial mowers we used 20 years ago. The deck is tough but mows best on normal lawn. Hi Adam, The Apex is comparable to the Cub Cadet Z-Force in price and features. Fabricated Deck 24-HP Kohler Pro, It is a hard one. The only real difference is the Toro has a slightly thicker deck, the automatic parking brake, and the smart speed control. The used one would be $900 cheaper, but it actually looks a little rough to me, including seat tears. The JD dealers seems good and I looked at the Z700 series. -Do you think 50 is overkill? All the new decks are much deeper so you get better airflow and you can use bagging blades to throw the grass into a bagger. This will save a lot of wear and tear on the transmission. Small ZTRS like the Ariens compact should NEVER be operated on any kind of slope. I enjoy mowing regularly (so Im looking forward to the fun of a ZTR). I am strongly leaning toward a DR Leaf and Lawn vac for fall and spring clean up and am concerned with weight of that being pulled by the mower. 1, Walker Model R (new Model)42inch Kohler 7000 Thanks! To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. I would check the belt you are using as a replacement. I also like the Gravely/Ariens in that price range. The MX5050 is an old model. So Im all jammed up! The Cub utilizes a similar tire setup, with the only difference being the 20 x 8-inch rear tires. Other fuels stabilizers to check out: Fuel Stabilizers. Problem is nobody makes a blower for a bagger anymore in a 42 in size except gravely. However, I can live without mulching. Do you recommend replacing blades annually? I attribute that to the uncovered engine and its close proximity to the operator, and perhaps to the fact that the engine enclosure basically directs the sound straight up right in back of the operator. The SS4225 is a good ZTR with Toros good single cylinder engine. Heavy-Duty Fabricated Decks Built with many commercial components so the mower will take a beating Good for acreages, estates, farm lawns, farm ditches, and mowing pastures monthly. For instance, the low-grade smaller deck mowers in question will have relative engines that generate 22 horsepower, and the high-grade with wider decks, 24 horsepower delivering a velocity of 7 8mph. Read more here: How to Support TodaysMower.com, I will list below three different types of residential zero-turn mowers. Who Makes The Best Lawn Tractor or Zero Turn For You? Do you have an opinion on these two units or recommend a mother brand in the same price point? . While its a good mower a rough lawn will shake it apart sooner than all the others Ive mentioned. With todays ethanol-blended fuel you need a gas can that seals tight. Do you have a preference between those 2? I couldnt be happier and you gave me some good advice last year, so thanks for that. Discussed this with the dealer. The Ryobi is holding up well and the owners like it a lot. I know they are all about the same price but you are paying $1000 for the batteries in the Ryobi and $500 for the MyRide. Hi Ryan, I too have a lot of leaves. The Kohler EFI and Exmark RED technology give you the power you need when you need it and will also reduce fuel consumption by 20% over other engines. Its just about commercial grade and only about $800 more. You provide really good information and I feel like you put alot of thought and energy into responding to those who seek your advice. If you want to learn more please go over to this post: Number 1, 2, 3, and 5 are good choices for your yard and what you want to do. Right now the ZTR market is saturated badly and there are new brands entering the market every month. A Cub Cadet owner can also purchase armrests for their mower, whereas the Toro doesnt accommodate this extra convenience. Hi Ryan, I actually recommend the John Deere Z355R. Hi Frank, there is only one the Ryobi 38 inch rider. In the past week, I have talked to a few local dealers; Cub Cadet, Toro, and Gravley/Ariens. 25 cu. My ground is uneven in places, due to settling. But much of the remaining hillside (15 degree slope) ends at a tree line, so mowing straight up and down requires that I make turns on the hill. Have someone engage the deck and watch the belt, idler bracket, spring, and each pulley. And remember dry ground this time of year can be just as slippery as wet ground. I live in south Alabama and have some pretty tough grass/weeds. Warren, RI, Hi Mike, I knew you would like it! Their side discharge decks get the grass out quickly so it cuts evenly and doesnt clump the grass. At the time I spent about $2k more because I was told it was a premium mower. It will last you years. Looking for a new zero turn 54 and under $3500 and under from Lowes. Hi Paul, Walker Model H. One really nice thing about the Walker is you can demo it on your yard before you buy. The Compacts (all brands) are only for small residential flat areas that have gates you have to deal with. You would have to go up to the Bad Boy ZT Elite to get the same heavy-duty machine as the Ariens/Gravely. If you get the Toro make sure you get a set of the standard mulching blades. It just would not move. My yard is just over an acre, 95% flat with a small ditch in the front. Their quality is what you expect. I suggest buying the size so that you dont keep more than a month of fuel around the house. But, Since you have a very rough lawn I recommend that you buy the Titan series with MyRide. The driveshaft is more durable than the Grasshoppers. Evaluating the following ZTRs: I would like to upgrade from my 2000 dixon with a 50 deck and a 15.5 hp vanguard. Any insight on the Toro V-twin vs the Kohler V-twin 7000 series? The other local Toro dealer is Ace Hardware. The bolt-in mulch kit is easy to take in and out for fall cleanup. Other thought was to get the 75742 then add the Rop Shop suspension seat but at that point Im only a couple hundred from the 75755 so probably not worth it. Seems like a few people I have talked to during my research have all said to not get Cub and go with the Toro. The easiest way to explain the cost difference is: If the Cub Cadet Ultima lasts 5 years without any major issues mowing 10 acres the Toro will go 7 years and the Ariens 10 years. Only applies to Pro machines. Im going to suggest the Ariens IKON XL 42 in. 2023 Desired Lawn Mower, all rights reserved. If you try to pull too much the transmissions can overheat and if you do it often enough they will fail. I feel like I cant afford to buy the wrong mower, especially at these prices. The second brand is Country Clipper. I assume the zero turn would have a lower center of gravity, but less weight on the front wheels. Best ride and cut NOT as important as longevity and ease of maintenance. Great information! If you are used to a mid-mount ZTR and then use the Walker for an hour youll never go back to the mid-mount. That said, they are tough enough to keep your woods clear but if you let the growth get over 11 inches or so you may have to mow the area 2 or more times before you get a clean cut. The Cubs transmission is a Hydro-Gear EZT 2200, and its tank is 0.5 gallons larger than the Toros. 10 years ago they were one of the best ZTRs on the market but today almost everyone else has passed them up for cut quality, service, etc. Seems as though your recommended ZTRs come from Big Box stores, which I prefer to purchase from a dealer. Im also not a big fan of mowers where the whole mower uses the suspension (like your car) because the deck can bounce up and down. (see it here at the Home Depot) It will have the weight to give you great traction along the drainage ditch. I am leaning towards the Ryobi, but there isnt much online about it besides the HD and the manufacturers site. Picture something you would use a brush hog for.. he was just able to do it a lot faster with a bobcat and an attachment. 5. Torn on 3 brands. My suggestion is to see what dealers are in your area. Some commercial operators keep their mowers maintained and run them thousands of hours, junk them and then buy new. The most important thing to me besides the bagger is reliability. They were also the first to use OHV across the entire line so they were more fuel-efficient and quieter. If you have a problem they take care of it or get you to a local dealer for the repairs. I like the fully welded frame on the Cub Cadet but on the other hand, you never hear of frame cracking on the Deere either. My personal first choice is always a stand-on but I dont recommend stand-on mowers smaller than 40 inches. It was a great lawn tractor when it was a Craftsman but it is not the right tractor for you from Costco. My John Deere riding mower had issues with grass building up under the deck, but its 2004 model. The Toro and Cub Cadet use different engines and transmissions, so these mowers hardly perform identically. I would cut across the slope to ease strain on the hydros and would only have to drive up the slope in a few areas of the yard. I easily say that this mower is thru and thru a Walker and will probably be the last mower you ever buy. I expect the batteries to last 5-7 years. Its very easy to switch from mulch to bag to side discharge. 4. You are right that the dealer can often make the difference, and the one I got mine from is awesome! The Toro dealer tells me they sell more MyRide now than the standard version. It is one of the best engines for fuel economy and is instantly responsive to heavy loads. Its going to be a great mower for the average suburban lawn but not for tall grass of really bumpy lawns. Which One Is Best For You? Toro Time Cutter HD: If you are rough on your equipment the deck and deck hangers on the HD are tougher than the Walker. Personally, Id go with a little heavier machine. The Radius E is the entry-level commercial Exmark. Bradley is a small Midwest company thats been around for years. Any thoughts on that machine? Believe it or not, I didnt have to replace the blade belt but about two years ago. Single-cylinder engines are less efficient and typically very loud. The Vanguard is B&S true commercial engine. Hi Art, Good comment! The dealer will do the tuneup and make sure everything is working perfectly. He mentioned and agreed but also suggested that the Cub and Toro will tow the same. If you have any questions or problems your local dealer will be glad to help you. It has a very low center of gravity and I believe you can adjust the weight of the deck to give it even more traction if needed. Dealer did mention that Cub Cadet is the hottest mower they sell now, even though he had a Toro shirt on ha ha. I like the flip up footplate, the Kohler, and the rear engine guard on the Cub Cadet a lot. have you ever tried mowing a very wet lawn. So, yes, if you are willing to spend the money its a very good mower for what you want to do. This is how I make money to keep this website up and running. I am narrowing down my decision and researched Exmark but I am not that familiar with Walker ZTRs. Johnss fluff-free How-to guides help homeowners fix lawnmowers, tractor mowers, chainsaws, leaf blowers, power washers, generators, snow blowers, and more.
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